#apologetics #tension #leadership #women #topic This is one of those topics that was not widely debated until the last hundred years. Facts we know: - Men and women are equal is value. - Men and women are both gifted by God for various ministries. - Men and women both have a part in the Great Commission and the discipleship of others. - Clearly, male leadership is ***not*** evil. It superseded the Fall in Genesis 3. - Clearly, ***some*** prohibition is intended in 1 Timothy 2:9-15 concerning a few things. This not equal all things. #### Two main views: - **Complementarian**- men and women are equal in value but have differing roles. - **Egalitarian**- men and women are equal in value and have the same roles. #### Book: Women in the Church > Köstenberger, Andreas J., and Thomas R. Schreiner, eds. Women in the Church: An Analysis and Application of 1 Timothy 2:9–15. 3rd ed. Wheaton, IL: Crossway, 2016. - This books main thesis is that women are equal in value, different in role. - This book advocates complementarianism. - This book says that while overall leadership in the Church is prohibitive for women, there are many other ministries available. I’m looking for a good, scholarly, egalitarian book. Main proponents: Gordon Fee and Craig Keener. Concerning 1 Timothy: - A rebuttal to people saying this only has to do with culture of the time. - Paul appeals to creation, not culture correction. It says that it was not the man but the woman who was deceived. You could look at this as saying Adam had not taught his wife the lessons God gave him. Therefore, it is for men to redeem that failure by teaching God’s Word properly now. - This makes it look more like a sacrifice and a form of redemption, nothing at all to do with value of the woman. #### Videos that describe complementarianism- [Are Women Pastors Biblical?](https://youtu.be/D4oiKly2Gso?si=QWJuDCWIlGNUCQtc) - This video shows that women are empowered to do anything in ministry other than eldership and preaching to the assembled community of adult mixed believers. - He rebuttals the pushback that says Paul wrote this to Timothy because the local culture of Ephesus was female-centric. The pushback says that women were also not generally educated like the men so Paul was more saying that people should have training first. This video’s rebuttal says Paul appeals to creation, not culture. [Cliff Knechtle Goes Viral with His take on Female Pastors. Is he right?](https://youtu.be/kjN7PfFxeko?si=wEx9ZuTD2mT_pvwb) - This video says Cliff is wrong. - Females should not be pastors because the burden is on men to give their life for the congregation. This is not a position of being “better,” but a position of giving themselves to the congregation.